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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: MLB Power Rankings (Top 20) August 3rd Reply with quote Back to top

Written By UOKazem at UM-Illustrated. to view either click the blog link at the top left of the forum or click here: UM-Illustrated
 
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Eleven/NY Yankees

Good old Kazem favoritism. His reasoning for the Yankees doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

At least he tried, the rest of it is alright, though the New York teams should be higher.
 
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

New York rankings aren't so bad-- you could maybe bump them a little higher, but both teams are 3rd in their division, 2.5 or more games out of a playoff spot, and with some questions surrounding their pitching.. the reason to bump them up would be, do you think both of these teams are going to stay a step behind the others, or will the gaps narrow (I vote the latter).
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Eleven/NY Yankees

Good old Kazem favoritism. His reasoning for the Yankees doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

At least he tried, the rest of it is alright, though the New York teams should be higher.


The NY Yankees are 36-26 at home, 25-24 at away. Of the 51 games they have left, only 19 are at home.

The total winning % (weighted per games played) of NY's schedule so far .509.

The total winning % (weighted per games played) of NY's schedule over the rest of the season .551.

The Yankees are going to play a much harder schedule than they have over the rest of the year, and they're going to have to play most of their games on the road as compared to what has been a very home heavy schedule so far.

At the same time, teams like the Rays and Sox play home friendly and easier schedules over the rest of the season. Home field advantage has been as big a factor in overall baseball play this year as much as any year in recent times. Expect all the away games to take a toll on the Yankees.

The strength of schedule change speaks for itself.
 
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 PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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The strength of schedule change speaks for itself.



Nice work man. Mets are Yankees are ranked right where they deserve to be - both teams have question marks. I dont see which teams could drop down to make room for these 2...
 
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The strength of schedule change speaks for itself.



Nice work man. Mets are Yankees are ranked right where they deserve to be - both teams have question marks. I dont see which teams could drop down to make room for these 2...


I'm wary of the NL West teams, the D-Backs and Dodgers. They've been mediocre all year and are just barely over .500 in a division that has been just bad. Yes, Manny obviously helps the Dodgers though. I'd slide them down for the Yanks, who got a big time boost at the deadline (I love Damaso Marte though...). But no way they're higher than anyone else above them other than those 2.
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 PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Very nice article UOKazem vhaps
 
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Oh the Yankees being in that area could make sense, but not with the reasoning in the article. The hard sched. is a factor, yes, but they've already shown the ability to beat the Jays, Tigers, and Twins (especially the twins) so I don't know why those teams are mentioned. And the Ponson and Rasner thing...Ponson has been pitching well so I'm not sure what the big deal is. Yes he's old and not too good but if Moyer gets to be a + for the Phillies thanks to his surprising success, why not Ponson as well?

And the Sox at 4? How does Jason Bay being a fan favorite make up for the loss of Manny? And do the Yankee prospects like Melancon and Phil Hughes (groan all you want, but he hasn't given up a run in AAA yet) count for nothing?

Ah, maybe I'm just assuming Kazem will write something favoritist. I dunno. It's alright I guess. Pretty well written, for what that's worth.
 
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Oh the Yankees being in that area could make sense, but not with the reasoning in the article. The hard sched. is a factor, yes, but they've already shown the ability to beat the Jays, Tigers, and Twins (especially the twins) so I don't know why those teams are mentioned. And the Ponson and Rasner thing...Ponson has been pitching well so I'm not sure what the big deal is. Yes he's old and not too good but if Moyer gets to be a + for the Phillies thanks to his surprising success, why not Ponson as well?

And the Sox at 4? How does Jason Bay being a fan favorite make up for the loss of Manny? And do the Yankee prospects like Melancon and Phil Hughes (groan all you want, but he hasn't given up a run in AAA yet) count for nothing?

Ah, maybe I'm just assuming Kazem will write something favoritist. I dunno. It's alright I guess. Pretty well written, for what that's worth.


Sidney Ponson has a 4.81 ERA with the Yankees, and it's only going to go up. His WHIP is a remarkable 1.6 over the season, 1.66 with the Yankees. How bad is that? With a WHIP of 1.6, he is tied for 90/95 (only four pitchers worse) in ALL of baseball with pitchers who have at least 40 innings under their belt. That's how bad he has been.

Moyer has a history of success. And this year, his ERA is a whole point lower, and his WHIP is a whole .3 points lower than Ponson's. Since 2001 Moyer has an ERA of 4 or so, and has only gone over 4.3 once. On the flipside, this is Ponson's lowest ERA since 03, having had an ERA of 5+ with every club in every year since then. One has a history of success and much stronger stats this year, that makes Moyer and +, not so much for Ponson.

Rasner speaks for himself. ERA of 1.8 in the month of May, then 6.47 in June, 6.23 in July, and 11.25 so far in August. I've said it 1,000,000 times before and I'll say it again, he's AAAA pitcher.

As for Hughes and Melancon, Hughes hasn't even resumed pitching to this point, and I won't believe in him for this year even when he comes back. He was awful even before he got injured, and IF he comes back this year, he has to go through rehab, re-adjust to the MLB level, and then there's no reason to believe he'll be anything stronger than a 6+ ERA pitcher. It's not a bash on Hughes, I LOVE his potential, but he's 22, coming off injury with a very small amount of time left for him to do so (considering he hasn't even started extensive rehab), and he has not been having success at the major league level.

The only 22 year old I'm buying as a real starter in all of the Majors is King Felix. Hughes will have his time, but I'll flat out guarantee you it's not this year.

As for Melancon, he's never pitched in AAA, only has 50 AA innings under his belt in AA, and missed the entire 2007 season with Tommy John Surgery. I'm not buying a player who has 75 innings since 2006 and never pitched above AA as the key to Yankee's success this year.

And no, that's not Sox bias. Michael Bowden had a 2.33 ERA in 104+ innings for us in AA, but I wouldn't give him anything more than a September call-up and a couple pen appearances that amount to almost nothing significant in the end. And my boy Daniel Bard is the same age as Melancon and has posted very similar AA stats as a reliever, with dominating High A stats, and I'm not talking about using him this year either.

If the Yankees are going to use any prospect this year in that rotation (and expect a significant contribution), it'll be Kennedy. I dislike him as much as anyone, but he's a Darrell Rasner with a stronger change and slightly better control, so you have to imagine he'll be more effective in the rotation than Rasner.

Here's a good example of why I don't buy into Hughes/Melancon this year;

David Robertson had AMAZING relief stats this year in AA and AAA.

AA - .96 ERA, 26 K, 18.2 IP, .75 WHIP
AAA - 1.64 ERA, 48 K, 33 IP, 1.03 WHIP

The major league line? 4.97 ERA, 14 K, 12.2 IP, 1.30 WHIP

He's the same age as Melancon, and was posting more dominant stats in higher levels.

Of all the Yankees pitching prospects, almost none of the notable ones have gone above AA ball, and really can't be expected to do more than 4-5 relief innings in September.

The one player I would've given a SHOT at making a small splash at was Dan McCutchen, not really a long term star IMO but could've done decent work out of the pen this year. But he got graded.

Don't forget that Chamberlain, Hughes, and Kennedy were your unquestioned top three prospects entering the season. You didn't have another pitcher in the top 100, save for maybe Betances (depending on the list) who is no where near MLB ready (20 years old, in A ball). It's not like you'll always have a never ending prospect supply to draw from.
 
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Thank you for the read.
 
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