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Bizplayboy
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Joined: 16 Aug 2007
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 Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:04 am Post subject: NHL Central Meeting |
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| Welcome managers to the CEO-NHL League! Please submit your franchise name and logo in this thread! Our draft will be starting on the 15th of July so managers start your studying! Any questions or discussions, post them in here as well.
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OhioSkinny
Joined: 21 Sep 2007
Posts: 238
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Circleville Pumpkins
Same logo as CEO Baseball and Football
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RespectMyAuthority
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 241
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Not meaning to intrude on the league setup or anything and I'll play with any league setup, but isn't a little out of whack to have 2 Goalies accounting for half of the stat categories? The rosters are fine, but typical roto leagues usually have 2 to 4 extra skating categories or the Goalies are worth way too much.
11 skaters shouldn't count for 6 categories when only 2 goalies count for 6 more.
Having Saves & Save % is kinda unnecessary and SHO's in a H2H league have always seemed weird to me, since there'll be many weeks where neither team has a Shutout -- in addition you already get big stats for Shutouts in GAA & either Save % (or just pure Saves).
I don't know, like I said I don't mean to intrude on the format, but I think eliminating SHO and cutting either Saves or Save % would balance out the inequity in the Goalies.
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Bizplayboy
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Joined: 16 Aug 2007
Posts: 5450
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| RespectMyAuthority wrote: |
Not meaning to intrude on the league setup or anything and I'll play with any league setup, but isn't a little out of whack to have 2 Goalies accounting for half of the stat categories? The rosters are fine, but typical roto leagues usually have 2 to 4 extra skating categories or the Goalies are worth way too much.
11 skaters shouldn't count for 6 categories when only 2 goalies count for 6 more.
Having Saves & Save % is kinda unnecessary and SHO's in a H2H league have always seemed weird to me, since there'll be many weeks where neither team has a Shutout -- in addition you already get big stats for Shutouts in GAA & either Save % (or just pure Saves).
I don't know, like I said I don't mean to intrude on the format, but I think eliminating SHO and cutting either Saves or Save % would balance out the inequity in the Goalies. |
Hey respect, it's not an intrusion at all .. this being this leagues first season, this is exactly the type of feedback we want as the idea is to set up a league which will work at its best and kep everyone interested.
You made some good point's. I'm going to look over your points tonight when i get home ... in the meantime, i ask that if anyone else has an opinion on the settings, speak now as well.
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RespectMyAuthority
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 241
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Bizplayboy wrote: |
| RespectMyAuthority wrote: |
Not meaning to intrude on the league setup or anything and I'll play with any league setup, but isn't a little out of whack to have 2 Goalies accounting for half of the stat categories? The rosters are fine, but typical roto leagues usually have 2 to 4 extra skating categories or the Goalies are worth way too much.
11 skaters shouldn't count for 6 categories when only 2 goalies count for 6 more.
Having Saves & Save % is kinda unnecessary and SHO's in a H2H league have always seemed weird to me, since there'll be many weeks where neither team has a Shutout -- in addition you already get big stats for Shutouts in GAA & either Save % (or just pure Saves).
I don't know, like I said I don't mean to intrude on the format, but I think eliminating SHO and cutting either Saves or Save % would balance out the inequity in the Goalies. |
Hey respect, it's not an intrusion at all .. this being this leagues first season, this is exactly the type of feedback we want as the idea is to set up a league which will work at its best and kep everyone interested.
You made some good point's. I'm going to look over your points tonight when i get home ... in the meantime, i ask that if anyone else has an opinion on the settings, speak now as well. |
Cool, sounds good. I've done about 4 draft leagues over the past few seasons and never have I seen a 1/1 skater to goalie category split. In some leagues I've seen an 8 to 4 split in stats, I think that might be a little too Skater heavy, but going to 6/4 I think you get a better balance.
Also, I know Yahoo uses the GWG as a standard stat, but honestly I think giving a category to PPG instead is better in terms of H2H leagues. The stats like GWGs & SHOs are great to use for full season leagues, but week to week, whole teams might go without any of them -- that's stuff you want to avoid in H2H. Players don't get +/- rewards for being on the ice during a PPG, so by adding PPGs (or PP Points) instead of GWGs rewards players for production on the Power Play, rather than awarding a lucky player who scored the goal that put his team ahead.
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RespectMyAuthority
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 241
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Here's my logo...
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Trinday
Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 481
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Team Name: Goncharea
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RespectMyAuthority
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 241
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Quicksilver, you live in El Cajon? If so, I live in Mission Hills near downtown.
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Grid
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| RespectMyAuthority wrote: |
| Quicksilver, you live in El Cajon? If so, I live in Mission Hills near downtown. |
Biz charges $2.99 per minute if you use this site as a dating service, just FYI.
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Bizplayboy
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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If we can get 1-2 chicks in here I may make a cyber board!!   
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BNole
Joined: 18 Sep 2007
Posts: 1150
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Bizplayboy wrote: |
| If we can get 1-2 chicks in here I may make a cyber board!! nzuetral confuszed rolz_eyes |
22/M/NC -- FL
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Bizplayboy
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Joined: 16 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| RespectMyAuthority wrote: |
Having Saves & Save % is kinda unnecessary and SHO's in a H2H league have always seemed weird to me, since there'll be many weeks where neither team has a Shutout -- in addition you already get big stats for Shutouts in GAA & either Save % (or just pure Saves).
I don't know, like I said I don't mean to intrude on the format, but I think eliminating SHO and cutting either Saves or Save % would balance out the inequity in the Goalies. |
Looking this over now, this does make allot of sence. I have always blindly played with the goalie cats being equal to the skater cats. But with only 2 goalies on an 11 man starting roster, perhaps cutting the goalie cats to 4 makes more sense. I would like a few more people to chime in on this as well as what catergories to use. Nice work Respect, it's a good idea.
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RespectMyAuthority
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 241
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Bizplayboy wrote: |
| Looking this over now, this does make allot of sence. I have always blindly played with the goalie cats being equal to the skater cats. But with only 2 goalies on an 11 man starting roster, perhaps cutting the goalie cats to 4 makes more sense. |
Acutally only 2 Goalies out of a 13 man starting lineup, 11 skaters.
I was looking at some numbers at lunch and it actually might be the SHG that should be removed from the skater stats --
Top 100 players in my other leagues FPts scale averaged these numbers:
Games Played = 78.3
Goals = 26.9
Assists = 40.1
PIM = 52.8
+/- = +6.6
PPG = 9.1
SHG = 0.8
GWG = 4.5
The SHGs are nearly irrelevant, those are per SEASON averages for the top 100 players, and if you take out Daniel Alfredsson's league leading 7 SHGs, you're down to 0.73 for the rest of the league. You want H2H categories to have a result as much as possible (ties are bad, m'kay), with SHG being include there's gonna be a lot of 0-0 splits in that category.
I think G, A, +/-, PIM, PPG, GWG is the way to go with the Skaters with W, GAA, SV% & SHO (or just Saves for the SHO). Loses shouldn't be included, if you don't get a Win you're giving up goals, no reason to be double penalized.
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Trinday
Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 481
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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SHGs have always been just a simple luck of the draw stat, horrid in Fantasy Hockey are my thoughts.
I think shutouts should definitely stay though. Cutting down the saves and/or save % isn't a bad idea though.
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darko
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 5341
Location: Melbourne, AUS
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Grid wrote: |
| RespectMyAuthority wrote: |
| Quicksilver, you live in El Cajon? If so, I live in Mission Hills near downtown. |
Biz charges $2.99 per minute if you use this site as a dating service, just FYI. |
I'm sure Quik will be more than happy to foot the bill for RMA.
Now back to the topic, I'm happy with a 6-4 split or something along those lines.
Biz, we need to set up the rules as well - something similar to football could be fine...
I'm using the same logo as in baseball and football - Wests Tigers
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